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  Famous Last Words

  by You Know in

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  the great depression had more to do with shaping the character and defining the last century than any other event, except the great wars that caused and followed the depression.

  the structure of the financial system though has radically changed since that time, in that it is many times larger, global in fact, and it is much more fragile and complex, in that it reacts nearly instantaneously to various factors.

  the average person is now much more dependent upon and indebted to the system as well.

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  Mommie Dark

  "So, there's 4 fruits of the spirit right there. Joy, faith, love, and self-control. / You Know"

  you forgot a few fruitages that you consistently display: stupidity, arogance, cruelty, and slanderous viciousness. Real nice spirit, Sideshow Bob, and by the way my JW relatives are so embarrassed by you, they deny you are one of JWs at all! So you are doing a wonderful service to the ex-JW cause by making a public spectacle of your alleged hotline to God and its 'fruits'! Thanks so much for the good work!

  Big sloppy kisses,
  Mommie D.
  who LOVES a good sideshow, especially when the clown provides his own banana peels
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  What drives exJWs to atheism?

  by ros in

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  a significant number of former jehovah's witnesses come out of the watchtower still believing the bible and considering themselves christians.

  most coming out are in a serious state of bewilderment, and they look intently and sincerely for something to fill the huge void of lost religion, lost family and friends, and lost fellowship.

  they seek some viable spiritual association with others of like mind while at the same time having become very wary of any organized religion.. what is it that eventually draws so many of us (not me) to agnosticism or atheism?

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  Mommie Dark

  Reply:(The condensed version)

  COMMON SENSE!
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  My Turn!

  by Derrick in

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  i request the first ones to read this post, to save this post on your hard drive.

  i understand this forum is not moderated, and have carefully worded this post with the utmost consideration for simon.

  however, in case gremlins cause it to mysteriously vanish, you can share this post with others who might want to know a little about me.

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  Mommie Dark

  Best advice:

  BLOW IT OUT A LOWER ORIFICE, Sour-grapes Boy!

  Get over it!

  Your every post is a long rancid breath of hot air. Your Waterworld went FLUSH! Deal with it without all this whinging.

  Sick to DEATH of Rick whining,
  MD
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  class distinctions

  by teejay in

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  a question and then i will allow the reader to reflect or respond.

  i do not expect to respond to any posts here.. are there class distinctions on jw.com?.

  if so, should those of the "high class" be allowed to run roughshod over the feelings of those deemed "low class at will?".

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  Mommie Dark

  "I'm just asking a question here, one that imo is very relevant."

  This question is only 'relevant' to starting more angry flaming. Give it a rest, Todd. Your butt is showing again.
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  I getting bored with this Board

  by OlderTom in

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  i'm just wondering if it is because i have changed and have gained my freedom from the watchtower enslavement or i just don't care anymore or is it that i have been exposed to too much of the same old complaints about the borg and all the false prophecies and the lies?.

  i must admit i still get pleasure from reports of the watchtower walls starting to crumble al over the civilized world so i guess i'll continue to pop in from time to time.. as far as trying to de-program and rescue the poor unfortunate brainnumbed watchtower slaves, i think it's a total waste of time after all how do get through to people who prefer to believe in the lies when they know they are lies but they just don't want to see the real truth about the "truth(tm)".

  i gues they don't want to see the real truth because it would force them to start thinking for them selves again and for some people that is just too much of a burden to bear.

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  Mommie Dark

  Younger Tom said, ". If you want to woo people away you have to put something concrete in its place"

  NONSENSE!!! Why do we have to replace your faulty salvation package for you? If you are a Bible believer, ponder this: Jesus said the road to salvation is cramped and narrow, and guess what? On a cramped narrow path YOU WALK SINGLE FILE. As in ALL BY YOURSELF. As in, slvation is something you work out AS AN INDIVIDUAL. It's between you and your personal notion of your god.

  This cowardly refusal to find the path for yourself is a hallmark of Jaydub non-thinking. There IS no 'cencrete' when it comes to religion. That is just another Watchtower lie...
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  Am I Codependent ? Now I'm a Bully?

  by Jang in

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  a couple of people have claimed i am co-dependent ..... a few years back i had to go through this list and do the following: .

  codependents frequently:.

  codependents frequently:.

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  Mommie Dark

  "So let it go and stop jumping on the bandwagon with everyone else unless you are so perfect yourself that you never have bad days and have never made a mistake."

  I never claimed perfection. That is a red herring, Jan AND YOU KNOW IT! I have NEVER harvested email addys and subscribed people unasked to any mail list. Spamming is NOT 'a mistake' Jan. You deliberately harvest addresses and subscribe people unasked. THAT is the issue, NOT whether I claim 'perfection.'

  I find it INCREDIBLE that you refuse to SEE the point that has been made here. I also find it incredible that you use your illnesses as an excuse for 'mental lapses' the way you do, but want to be taken seriously as a therapist and treated as an expert in the cult recovery field. If you aren't in full control of your faculties, give up trying to administer mail lists and be 'famous'. If you are fully compos mentis, LEARN from this and STOP the offending habit!

  I suggest if your health is genuinely so bad that you can't administer your lists in a courteous and timely manner, you stop doing so much and especially, to save a lot of grief, STOP SUBSCIBING PEOPLE TO YOUR LISTS WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION!!!

  It is NOT bullying to try to stop a nuisance from perpetuating itself repeatedly. Get a clue, hon. You ANNOY more than you do good with your tactics.

  A genuine professional would never have posted any of the defensive stuff you've trotted out in this thread. But then, a genuine professional wouldn't be trolling the internet for souls to save, either...

  Giving it up now,
  MD
  who never claimed to be more than 'just another onionhead'
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  Am I Codependent ? Now I'm a Bully?

  by Jang in

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  a couple of people have claimed i am co-dependent ..... a few years back i had to go through this list and do the following: .

  codependents frequently:.

  codependents frequently:.

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  Mommie Dark

  This is so HORRIBLE!!!

  Jan all you need do to silence your critics is to STOP SUBSCRIBING PEOPLE TO YOUR MAIL LISTS UNLESS THEY SPECIFICALLY REQUEST IT!!!!!!

  I said this to you the first time you did it to me. I said it when you somehow managed to sub me TWICE to your lists so I got triplicate copies of your every mail (thru your lists and the Observer list). I never ASKED to be subbed to your list. THE ONLY OTHER PEOPLE WHO EVER SUBBED ME UNSOLICITED WERE BORN-AGAIN FUNDIES! It took a series of angry emails to get you to take me off all your lists and KEEP me off. Since I never gave you permission to PUT me on any list, this chapped my ass pretty hard. As now, you blamed ME for a lack of patience when you didn't comply with my first requests.

  Every time someone tells you this FACT you whinge about your chronic fatigue and how it makes you muddleheaded. This non sequitur excuse is getting old. Lots of us have chronic ailments. AFAIK, you are the only one who uses yours as an excuse to violate netiquette repeatedly.

  Your message is not so vital or lifesaving that it raises you above the rules of common courtesy. Instead of saying 'sure, ok, I'll quit annoying folks by subscribing them uninvited,' you post your alleged test sessions 'proving' you're not mentally ill in the ways your angry victims have suggested. Yes your behavior IS passive-aggressive. I suspect you are well aware of that on some level but it serves your needs to deny it.

  I know you are sincere and you think you are doing a wonderful work. But shoving your work at folks uninvited is the height of rude, and excusing that behavior by suggesting that your victims are just being mean and unkind to a sick woman who is only trying to be helpful is, honestly Jan, just plain ludicrous. This is not meant as an insult to you. Consider it a plea for some of the empathy you insist others give to you.

  When a curmudgeon like Mommie D is sick of the infighting, it's gone too far. I can't imagine how sick at heart some of the board members must be feeling as they see this idiocy happening. If MY heart o' stone can be bruised by this anger, the tender ones must be in agony...

  This lends weight to my resolve to go back into permanent lurk mode. Some pleasures are just not worth the associated hassles...this place is rapidly becoming such.
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  Incredible LOVE

  by Norm in

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  the watchtower society is out with a window dressing article on its web page these days.

  it has the title: .

  love of neighbor.

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  Mommie Dark

  Oh Rochelle!
  "a candy-and-bubblegum world of cute, smiling, cheerful animatronic dolls that sing the song "It's a Small World" the entire time. It's actually a lot like visiting a Kingdom Hall.)"

  The kingdom hall ride has much less redeeming value than the "Small World" ride. The robotic dolls in a Kingdom Hall don't sing in perfect harmony and the songs they sing are sure not as cheery and uplifting as "It's a Small World."
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  Branch Office Report

  by Dogpatch in

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  http://thetruthhurts.freeservers.com/report.htm

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  Mommie Dark

  since when do these guys abbreviate Jehovah's name to 'Jeh'? Why this bit of shorthand? It just jars, for some reason. Bizspeak?

  Why not use the old familiar 'Jah' or better yet, as they have exhorted their followers, don't speak familiarly to/of Jehovah and write out the full Sacred Name? What influence moves these men to shorten God's name so impertinently? Could it be.... SATAN?

  BTW it's nice to know they DO keep a dossier of letters received with Scriptural questions. It sorta proves what we've known all along; they keep tabs on their You Knows pretty closely.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses prepare for meeting

  by Kent in

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  huntington -- it's not that the huntington civic arena is dirty.

  it's just that william "pat" thompson's organization has higher standards of cleanliness.. thompson is among 6,000 jehovah's witnesses attending the religious group's annual district 12 convention friday through sunday.. a small group of jehovah's witnesses arrived a day early and spent thursday sweeping, scrubbing and painting the civic arena in preparation for the gathering.. "this is our place of worship for three days," thompson said.

  "so we have to clean jehovah's house.".

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  Mommie Dark

  "do they tell the owners that 'our people"(read-r/f slaves) will clean the place? Does that help them get a discounted price on the place?"

  I know that leverage got used here in NE OH in the past, Tina. My b.i.l. was one of the guys who went to the Richfield Coliseum to clean before conventions. They always scheduled the assemblies the day after big arena rock shows, usually some heavy metal band with a real rowdy crowd. The JWs would go into the coliseum after the concert crowd left, and clean all night and set up the assembly. He told stories of emptying oil drums full of urine and sopping up puddles of vomit in the corridors, finding joints and paraphernalia and works under the seats, all sorts of stuff. Then the Coliseum management would schedule a family-oriented show like Muppets on Ice for the day after, sometimes even for Sunday evening, so the JWs would scramble like mad to get the place cleared and cleaned in their signature manner before the next show was due to set up.

  These cleanings were part of the package from what he said. Otherwise management would have preferred a couple of big venue shows on Fri & Sat nights!

  I remember an assembly in Amarillo where I was appalled to see trash cans overflowing everywhere. Turns out there was some politicking between Convention Center and JWs regarding trash removal(venue management was accustomed to providing sanitation services for a fee at Center events, JWs of course do things their way or no way)... so during the stalemate nobody took care of the trash! They had taped over all the vending machines, too, and attendants would steer you away from trying them anyway.